Global Warming and Fracking

Jackals57 · Oct 21, 2014

Ok I'll bite. But move to the other boards.

Originally posted by buffalo52565:
Stunning
is the head in the sand mentality of the majority of the inhabitants of
the planet. I realize there is no ABSOLUTE way to know that the earth
is warming due to human intervention. However, the intelligent among us
act with that as the basis because 1) it is a reasonable conclusion
based upon the evidence we are able to collect and interpret with the
tools available to us, and 2) there is no good reason NOT to. Pumping
pollutants into our ecosystem is NEVER a good idea. I would rather I be
wrong after having acted responsibly.
This is probably a good place
to end, since: For those who do not believe, there is no proof, while
for those who do believe, no proof is necessary.

1. " There is no absolute way to know that the earth is warming due to human intervention" (anthropogenic):

If there is no warming of the planet, then there is no anthropogenic warming of the planet!
There has been NO RISE in global temperatures for the last 18 years...
during all the hysteria of global warming. This coming from the same
RSS data that was used to show global warming existed in the first
place, and now there is not a flicker of global temperature change using
the same RSS (satelite) data. Global warming has been absent for an
embarrassing 18 years.

2. Is it a reasonable conclusion?

How can Global warming be a reasonable conclusion when there isn't any temperature rise globally? It can't be a reasonable conclusion.

3. There is No good reason NOT to. (act as if anthropogenic global warming is factual) :

Yes
actually there are good reasons not to act like global warming is
fact. If it's not fact then it shouldn't be regarded as such. Clearly
we all should strive to not pollute our ecosystems. My motto is
"Clean is good, Dirty is Bad" We have to be good stewards and there is
a lot of room for improvement here. Especially with city folk.

4. Pumping pollutants into our Ecosystem is NEVER a good idea:

Your
right on this one! Unless your talking about fracking..... which
yeilds huge beneficial returns in less polluting natural gas as energy
sources. Think Methane +Oxygen yeilds CO2 and H2O. Instead of Coal.
I have an entire lecture waiting on fracking!

5. "For those that do not believe, there is no proof, while for those who do believe, no proof is necessary."

So It's a Religion! ??

I
love the outdoors, that's why I live where I do! Yeah Penna! It's
kinda cold in the winter here and I've secretly been hoping for some of
that Global Warming to help out... but apparently it's not to be...
Just come on back West, bring yer gun and yer horses, leave any eastern
politics at home and you'll fit right in! We'll try to find you a palm tree.

52565,
Thanks
for trying to be a good steward of our environment. That's great. My
only bone to pick with you was you made a comment about Fracking then
we went into global warming. I want you to know I'm not some evil dirty
pollution loving crazy. Quite the oposite, It's just that global
warming doesn't hold water... if there is no global warming happening.

Fracking
by the way is very safe, and by fracking natural gas wells we actually
help the environment due to decreased use of Coal as an energy source
for electricity. Fracking and Natural gas production done correctly
with proper oversight is your friend.... at least until we have the
ability to improve solar, wind, nuclear, and hydroelectric to meet the
worlds demands. Or we could use Ebola to reduce demand I suppose if you'd rather.